3. Margaret Howe and Her Hicks White Family – References

Margaret Howe had three Hicks children (Sarah Mary, James & Ann) with Richard James Hicks before marrying Thomas White, with whom she had three more children ( Thomas White Jnr, Elizabeth White & John[George] White). Some claim that there may have been another son, William, who died in childhood. Margaret and Richard were ex-convicts and most likely Thomas was too. Click for details of Margaret Howe and her Family Tree – covers her descendants with both Richard James Hicks and Thomas White.

  • 1761 – Approximate birth of John Herbert – future father – in – law of Sarah Hicks and Elizabeth White
  • 1764 – Birth of Deborah Ellam – future mother-in-law of Sarah Hicks and Elizabeth White
  • 1775 – Birth of Thomas White – in County Cork Ireland – later husband of Margaret Howe
  • 1778 – Birth of Margaret Howe in Surrey England
  • 1784 – 8- 30Deborah Ellam convicted of stealing clothes at Chester Assizes – sentenced to 7 years
  • 1875 – 3 – 14 – John Herbert convicted at Exeter Devon of Assault & Highway Robbery   – sentenced to Death and transported for 7 years
  • 1785 – Birth of Margaret Howe‘s first partner, Richard James Hicks in Kent England
  • 1787 – 5 – 13John Herbert – future father in law of Sarah Mary Hicks and Elizabeth White – transported on the  Charlotte for Australia
  • 1787 – 5 – 13Deborarh Ellam  –  future mother in law of Sarah Mary Hicks and Elizabeth White – transported on the   Prince of Wales for Australia
  • 1788 – 01 -26 John Herbert – arrived on the Charlotte in Sydney as Convict
  • 1788 -01 -26  – Deborah H Ellam – arrived on the Prince of Wales in Sydney as Convict
  • 1788 – 4 – 2- Marriage of John Herbert and Deborah Ellam – Source : The Pioneer Register – also NSW BDM – V178840 3A/1788 & V178850 4/1788
  • 1795 – Joseph Herbert is born to John Herbert and wife Deborah Ellam in Parramatta – their third child – NSW BDM V1795462 1A/1795 & V1795120 148/1795
  • 1797 – John Herbert Jnr is born to John Herbert and wife Deborah Ellam in Parramatta – their fourth child – NSW BDM – V1797647 1A/1797
  • 1797 -10-03 – Conviction of Richard James Hicks at Kent Quarter Sessions Maidstone – see Indent
  • 1797 – Joseph Dransfield arrives on the Ganges – source “Who Came Down with Dr Charles Throsby?” – Dr Joseph Davis on Academia.edu & Colonial Secretarial Index 1788-1825
  • 1801 – Transport of Richard James Hicks on Canada (Nile Canada Minorca)
  • 1802 – Arrival of Richard James Hicks at Sydney on Canada as Convict
  • 1802 – Sentencing of Margaret Howe at Surrey Assizes
  • 1803-11 – Transport of of Margaret Howe on Coromandel & Experiment
  • 1804-07-01 – Arrival of Margaret Howe in Australia as Convict on Coromandel & Experiment
  • 1806 – Birth of Margaret‘s first child Sarah Mary Hicks, with Richard (James) Hicks in South Creek, NSW
  • 1810 – 03 -10 – Birth of Margaret‘s second child James Hicks with Richard James Hicks in Windsor
  • 1816 – Birth of Margaret’s third child Ann Hicks with Richard James Hicks – NSW BDM – V18174755 1B/1817 & V1816407 127/1816 & V1816425 128/1816
  • 1818 – Birth of Margaret‘s first child with Thomas White – Thomas White Jnr – her 4th child – NSW BDM – V18181437 121A/1818 & V18184754 1B/1818
  • 1818 – William Bristow arrived on the Canada as Convict
  • 1818 – 5 – 6 – Conspiracy to take the Isabella – deposition claiming George Hurst‘s innocence – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825
  • 1818 – 09 – 22  – George Hurst arrived in Sydney on Isabella – sent to Parramatta ? – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825
  • 1819 – Margaret Howe married Thomas White, 03-04-1819 in St Luke’s, Liverpool – NSW BDM – V178850 4/1788
  • 1819 – Birth of Margaret Daley in Sydney – daughter of Thomas Brain and Ann Daley
  • 1819 – 6 – 3 – Death of Deborah Herbert (nee Ellam) – NSW BDM – V18194347 2B/1819 & V18191157 148/1819
  • 1821 – 3 – 26Joseph Herbert seeks permission to marry – first marriage ? – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825 – did he marry ? not in NSW BDM nor in the NSW Pioneer Register which has a child Susannah born in 1820 but no mother – Susannah‘s mother may be Sarah Croft (NSW BDM V18205338 1B/1820)
  • 1821 – 10-20 –  Birth of Margaret‘s second child with Thomas White in Campbelltown – Elizabeth White – her 5th child – NSW BDM – V18215694 1B/1821
  • 1822 – William Bristow an Overseer on a Road Gang – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers, Sutherland Reference Library
  • 1822- 02 -10Joseph Dransfield of the Illawarra is appointed Constable and Joint Pound Keeper – Source – Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825
  • 1823 – 5 – 20Sarah Hicks seeks permission to marry – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788-1825
  • 1823 – 5 – 20George Hurst seeks permission to marry – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788-1825
  • 1823 – Sarah Mary Hicks marries George Hurst/Hust – her first marriage – NSW BDM – V182378 128/1823 & V182385 127/1823
  • 1822 – 4-24Joseph DransfieldConstable at the Five Islands – Deposition re killing of Aborigine – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788-1825
  • 1823 – 10 – 01Joseph DransfieldConstable at Illawarra. On the return of the Police Establishment in Appin and the Illawarra – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825
  • 1824 – Marriage of Thomas Brain and Ann Daley, parents of Margaret Daley, future wife of James Hicks – NSW BDM – V18243385 3B/1824 & V1824232 155/1824
  • 1824 – 5 – 1 Joseph Dransfield – Return of the Police Establishment in Appin and the Illawarra – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788- 1825
  • 1824 -7 -3Joseph Dransfield – Petition for an Assistant Constable – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825
  • 1824 – 11& 12Joseph Dransfield resigned as Constable in the Illawarra – Source : Colonial Secretary’s Papers 1788 – 1825 – intended to take charge of the Grazing Run of Richard Brooks near Lake George – however he appears to have returned to being a Constable in the Illawarra by 1827 (see references below)
  • 1826 – Birth of Margaret‘s third child with Thomas White in Wollongong – John (George) White – her 6th child – NSW BDM – V1826748 125/1826 – note Margaret spelled as “Margret
  • 1827 – 3 – 1Constable Joseph Dransfield impounds a mare – Source : Sydney Gazette and NSW Advertiser
  • 1827 – 8-29 Constable Joseph Dransfield of Illawarra is dismissed for drunkenness and neglect of duty – Source : Sydney Gazette & NSW Advertiser
  • 1827 – Sarah Mary Hicks comes before the courts in the Illawarra
  • 1828 – 2 – 21William Bristol, Sarah Mary Hicks & Joseph Dransfield indicted for assault on Charles McCarthy in Illawarra, Bristol guilty and the other two are acquitted – Source : The Monitor Sydney
  •  1828 – 2 – 21 – William Bristol, Sarah Mary Hicks & Joseph Dransfield indicted for assault on Charles McCarthy in Illawarra, Bristol guilty and the other two are acquitted – Source : The Australian  Sydney
  • 1828 – 2 – 22 – William Bristol, Sarah Mary Hicks & Joseph Dransfield indicted for assault on Charles McCarthy in Illawarra, Bristol guilty and the other two are acquitted – Source : The Australian  Sydney
  • 1828 – 03 – 06William Bristow (Bristol ?) found guilty in the Supreme Court of assault  on Charles McCarthur and imprisoned for 2 months – Source : The Monitor
  • 1828 – Sarah Mary Hicks ?Hurst / Hust is listed in 1828 Census as living with William Bristow in the Illawarra – is he William Bristol ?
  • 1828 – Ann Hicks, 12 years, is listed in 1828 Census as being a servant of William Bristow in the Illawarra
  • 1829 – 7 – Loss of thecutter the  Foxhound – Source : Illawarra Family History Group – Illawarra Branches No.7 June 1986 – pages 2-3
  • 1829 – 07Thomas White dies in the loss of the cutter, the Foxhound off Coalcliff, on its run carrying Cedar and Pumpkins from the Five Islands to SydneyNo BDM entry for Thomas White in 1829, only for John White
  • 1830 – 02 -18 – listing of James Hicks’ Application for land grant in Illawarra – Historical Records of the Illawarra 1770- 1855 by Michael Organ – also  – Source : Illawarra Family History Group – Illawarra Branches No.7 June 1986 – pages 2-3
  • 1830 – 09 – 30 James Hicks in included in a Petition – Index to References to Illawarra Names pre 1856 – A P Doyle & M Organ – Illawarra Historical Publications 1992 – p23
  • 1831- 02 – 01 – James Hicks is included in a letter of recognition to George Sleeman by Northern Illawarra Landholders & free inhabitants – also included is William Bristow
  • 1831 – 10-11Sarah Hicks / Hurst committed by Lieutenant Steelman for trial with Christmas Paulgrove and George Crow on charge of stealing a bullock from Mr J S Spearing in the Illawarra – Source : Sydney Gazette and NSW Advertiser
  • 1832 – 01 – 25 – James Hicks is included in a Petition – Index to References to Illawarra Names pre 1856 – A P Doyle & M Organ – Illawarra Historical Publications 1992 – p23
  • 1832-04-01  – Death of John Herbert, father in law of Sarah Herbert (Hicks) & Elizabeth Herbert (White)Fellowship of First Fleeters  & NSW BDM 1312/1832 V18321312 16
  • 1833 – Birth of Mary Anne Herbert to Sarah Mary Hicks and Joseph Herbert – NSW BDM – V18331082 27A/1833
  • 1834 – 11-10 – Marriage of John (James)  Hicks to Margaret Daley (daughter of Thomas Brain/Brean/Brayne & Anne Daley) in Penrith Parish of Castlereagh – NSW BDM – V18341250 18/1834
  • 1834 – From 1834  the References for James Hicks can be found here
  • 1834 – Elizabeth White marries her uncle, John Herbert Jnr in Castlereagh – NSW BDM V18341242 18/1834
  • 1837 – 12 -15 – Death of Margaret White (nee Howe), widow of Thomas White  in Castlereagh  – NSW BDM – V18372549 21/1837
  • 1845 – Ann Hicks may have married Thomas Jackson – NSW BDM – V1845551 30B/1845
  • 1846 – Birth of Charles Herbert to Sarah Mary Hicks and Joseph Herbert – NSW BDM – V18461518 31A/1846
  • 1848 – Birth of Alfred Herbert to Sarah Mary Hicks and Joseph Herbert – NSW BDM – V18481103 34A/1848
  • 1848 – Thomas White Jnr married Frances Smith at the Presbyterian Church in Wollongong – NSW BDM V18484459 74B/1848 & V1848569 78/1848 – Frances is daughter of John Smith and Frances
  • 1852 – George Hurst / Hust, first husband of Sarah Mary Hicks is believed to have died – NSW BDM – V18521492 38B/1852
  • 1852 – Death of Richard James Hicks, former partner of Margaret Howe in Mulgoa Penrith – NSW BDM – V18521492 38B/1852
  • 1855 – Sarah Mary Hicks and Joseph Herbert marry in the Church of England at Castlereagh – his second marriage (?) & her second marriage – perhaps after the deaths of their first spouses ? – NSW BDM – V1855792 43B/1855 & V18551369 158/1855
  • 1856 – 08 -27 – John (George) White marries his niece Mary (Anne) Herbert (daughter of John Herbert Jnr & wife Elizabeth White) in Richmond – NSW BDM – V2122/1856
  • 1859 – Death of John (George White), third child of Thomas (John) White and Margaret Howe in Rylstone – NSW BDM – 4941/1859
  • 1864 – Thomas White Jnr, first child of Thomas White and wife Margaret Howe, died in Glebe – NSW BDM – 1941/1864
  • 1873 – 9 – 9 – Death of John Herbert Jnr (son of John & Deborah Herbert), husband of Elizabeth (nee White) in Penrith – NSW BDM – 6430/1873
  • 1878 – Death of Elizabeth Herbert (nee White), second child of Thomas White and wife Margaret Howe in Penrith – NSW BDM – 1088/1878
  • 1880 – Death of Sarah Mary Herbert (nee Hicks), first child of Margaret Howe and Richard James Hicks in Penrith/ Nepean – NSW BDM – 9673/1880
  • 1886 – 09 – 13 – Death of Joseph Herbert, husband of Sarah Mary Hicks in Castlereagh – NSW BDM – 12268/1886 & Pioneer Index
  • 1895-06-16 – Death of James Hicks –  second child of Margaret Howe and Richard James Hicks – NSW BDM – 6979/1895 – Sydney Morning Herald
  • 1895 -06-18 – Death of James Hicks – Evening News
  • 1895 -06 – 22  – Death of James Hicks – Windsor & Richmond Gazette
  • 1895-06-22 – Death of James Hicks – Australian Town & Country Journal 
  • 1905 – 11-27  – Death of wife James Hicks‘ wife – Margaret Hicks (nee Brain/Brayne/Daley) at Thirroul – NSW BDM – 14944/1905 – Sydney Morning Herald
  • 1905- 11- 29  – Death of Margaret Hicks (nee Brain/Brayne/Daley) at Thirroul – Australian Town & Country Journal
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3 Responses to 3. Margaret Howe and Her Hicks White Family – References

  1. To Robert Herbert – thanks for picking up my blunders – I have emailed you and commenced fixing – and by the way I am delighted to make contact with the President of the Herbert Association. I understand that you have written a book on the Herbert Family – is it still available ? regards
    KAC

  2. Hi Kerry Anne, I have just discovered your blog while researching Sarah Mary Hicks, my Great Great Grandmother. I note in the page “3. Margaret Howe and Her Hicks White Family – References” you have references to John Herbert, my Great Great Great Grandfather and Sarah’s Father-in-law, however, you have the wrong John Herbert. The correct John Herbert arrived on the transport Charlotte not on the Scarborough and thus all the data on John Herbert is incorrect. If you want the correct information for John Herbert contact me via email.
    Regards
    Rob Herbert
    President The Herbert Family Association Inc.

  3. Maureen Schmarr says:

    Thank you for allowing me to join your family history and sharing your information. I have started to search my husband’s side of the family. Have come to a Mary Ann Herbert married to William Moxham . Married 8 June 1859 at Castlereagh Church in Penrith. Father Joseph Herbert signed her papers as was stated she was under age. Transcription is ref. 1859/2742, this means if she was under age she could not have been your Mary born 1833, although that is the only Mary Ann I can find in NSW BDM index with a father Joseph and mother Sarah M. The witnesses at the wedding were Edward Herbert and Harriet Herbert. I only received the certificate on Dec 24, 2013 and my pc died the next day so am using a laptop until tomorrow.
    Will have to contact Hawkesbury Historical Society as I believe they have information in their register. Regards Maureen Schmarr

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